Detours and Convergences: Two Takes on James Tate

By STEVE PAUL

(c) 2025

Courtesy William Stafford Archives, Watzek Library, Special Collections, Lewis and Clark College.

Stafford first crossed paths with James Tate in the late 1960s, around the time the younger poet, still at the Iowa Writers Workshop, won the Yale Younger Poets Prize for his first book, The Lost Pilot. They corresponded and met up over the years on one campus or another. Stafford was famous for hauling out his camera at every writers’ gathering, and in browsing a vast collection of his photographs I’ve come across several pictures he took of Tate. This one, Tate at right, dates to roughly 1976, probably at Iowa. I haven’t yet identified the other poet in the photo (left), so if anyone has a clue, please let me know. In the late 1980s, when I was book review editor of the Kansas City Star, I happened to interview Tate at least twice. (There was also one dinner in Kansas City that I recall, though I don’t think I was taking notes.) Here are the two resulting stories from The Star. In 1992, I responded quickly to news of his Pulitzer Prize and got him on the phone before he’d heard from anyone else. The stories first appeared April 3, 1988, and April 8, 1992.

Decisions, Decisions: How the Pieces of a Biography Come Together

By STEVE PAUL

(c) 2025

 

This post is about how biographers make certain decisions about what to include and how to include it. If it sounds like I’m speaking to myself, well, yes I am. But it occurs to me that pulling back the curtain on how certain moves are made would be enlightening for other writers in general as well as those who might be interested in the story of William Stafford. Stafford often pulled back his wizard’s curtain and wrote about how this poem was made or that one. As much as he thought, or wanted us to think, that poems emerge from somewhere ineffable and often seem to write themselves, he knew otherwise.

As this anecdote was emerging one morning while waking up, I wondered about going back four years to the notes I began making as this project was taking shape and birthing and growing up. In January I started a notes file for Year 5 of the Stafford biography. So five documents now add up to hundreds of pages of random notes, collected facts, poetic lines, emails of interest, interviews, and occasional interior debates about strategies, ideas, dead ends, and new finds. Watch for a separate post in the near future where I’ll share a progression of those notes, a kind of writing diary as I was learning and thinking about this extraordinary poet, citizen, and human.

It was nearly four years ago when I came across this curious episode in Stafford’s writing life. December 6, 1973, he appeared on a reading event in San Francisco with the wild and grungy Charles Bukowski. The Stafford archives made a blog entry about the whole thing in 2013, offering up not only an account of the event but an exchange of letters between the two poets that revealed a complex level of multi-layered interpersonal relations, hard feelings, and snap judgments. This will be fun to write about, I’ve thought all along.

William Stafford’s photograph of Charles Bukowski.

And now, while nearing the spot in a late chapter where l’affaire Bukowski would neatly fit, I came to a crossroads. What exactly should I do with it?

I’ve got the letters. I’ve got the blog item. Now what? I didn’t want to just recast the archive blog in my own words. I soon realized that if I couldn’t bring anything new to the incident then why bother spending much time and space on it.

So I poked around. The internet, of course, was quite helpful. Three or four “new” things did emerge, none employed by Jessica Alberg, a Lewis and Clark student, for the Stafford Archives blog in 2013. (The William Stafford Archives are housed in the Special Collections Department of the Aubrey Watzek Library at Lewis and Clark College in Portland, Ore.)

First was a poem by Bukowski that directly described, with derision, his version of the scene as Stafford read poems about “nature and the inherent goodness of man.” The second find was a newspaper article from Portland nearly a year later when a poetry columnist dredged up the episode and quoted an account, anonymous, from a witness. A contemporaneous review of Bukowski’s recently republished short fiction adds another voice and a respectful view of the poet’s provocative but invaluable place on the literary landscape. And a letter to another poet contained a useful snippet of Stafford’s real feelings.

The 2013 blog included a photograph that Stafford took of Bukowski that evening, a copy of which he apparently sent to the L.A. poet, if you read between the lines of Stafford’s brief letter.  I had hoped to find alternative takes of the photograph in the vast cache of Stafford’s negatives in the archives. I looked through hundreds of photos from 1973 and adjacent years. Alas, none other turned up (yet).

These four extra bits don’t necessarily translate into a startling series of sentences. But they gave me something to work with other than a rehash of previously known material. Here’s how it turned out in the draft manuscript, which is currently still growing toward completion. (I’ve included source notes, along with the archive blog url near the end). As I was approaching this chapter, I’d expected to write a longer section about Stafford and Bukowski, but for now I’m hoping these four paragraphs suffice:

            Charles Bukowski, the boozy and bonkers poet laureate of underbelly Los Angeles, took public aim at Stafford in a mid-1970s poem. Bukowski was remembering the odd night in December 1973 when he was paired with Stafford for a reading at the San Francisco Museum of Art. Sponsored by the San Francisco Poetry Center, the event has taken on legendary proportions—a gladiatorial meeting of the mild-mannered Oregonian and the grungy, gun-slinging Angeleno. In his poem “All the Little Girls” (later titled “The Little Girls”), Bukowski derides Stafford’s innocence, represented by the audience of girls in the colorful dresses and their “tight blue jeans with little hearts sewn on them” who wanted nothing more than to hear him read his poems “about nature and the goodness of man” Stafford, named only William in Bukowski’s poem, “had never been in jail or in a whorehouse…had never needed more than 3 drinks during his wildest evening; had never been rolled, flogged, mugged…” Bukowski, of course, knew nothing of Stafford’s wartime incarceration, but no matter, this was a performance.

           Bukowski was likely drunk when he took the museum stage on Dec. 6, 1973. “Bukowski…looking like a wino from Fifth and Minna, vastly entertaining, and he had these groupies, vast and pendulous, wandering in and out, changing clothes and shuffling chairs while Stafford read…It was most touching that Bukowski took time out from his own reading to mock Stafford (‘Has he fainted yet?’) This reading was shocking. It was insensitive to put anyone short of King Kong on the same bill with a charismatic slime like Bukowski. It is doubly insulting to put a poet of William Stafford’s unique stature on such a bill.” This witness was an anonymous source for a Portland journalist who recounted the event nearly a year later. The Poetry Center director acknowledged that the combination of voices, while energetic, might have been a mistake given how rude Bukowski’s fans were to Stafford. But, “so be it.” [Bukowski’s poem can be found under both titles online. Gene Detro, “Poetry Notes: Readings Scheduled at PSU,” Oregon Journal, Oct. 12, 1974, 10.]

            A Bukowski story collection had recently been reprinted by City Lights Books of San Francisco, prompting at least one admiring review. The literary critic and antiquarian bookseller Ralph Sipper, recognizing how the “black humor of ignominy pervades Bukowski’s work and it makes us laugh too,” describes how he stands far away from Stafford’s position on poetry’s spectrum though not too far away at the same time: “He is the minstrel of the men and women whose lives have been permanently derailed from the main line of comfortable society. And while that becomes unbearable at times, one listens because he sings the truth.”[Ralph Sipper, “A Volume of Adult Classics,” review of Bukowski’s Notes of a Dirty Old Man, San Francisco Examiner, Dec. 30, 1973, 121.] It’s doubtful that the Portland literature professor ever got around to reading Bukowski’s stories.

            Nevertheless, Stafford was typically agreeable and unflustered when he wrote a brief letter to Bukowski a few days later and apparently sent him a print of the low-light photo he had taken. He regretted that they didn’t meet after the show. Bukowski was typically audacious in his reply a few weeks later, though reading his letter closely reveals that he might have even been touched by Stafford’s outreach. “It’s just as well we hadn’t met. I do things stupid.”[WS to Charles Bukowski, Dec. 10, 1973, Bukowski to WS, Jan. 4, 1974, General Correspondence. The letters are reproduced with a 2013 blog article about the episode, https://williamstaffordarchives.blogspot.com/2013/03/i-like-flat-country-and-i-hate-precious.html] Despite his polite letter to Bukowski, Stafford might have come closer to his real feelings in a letter about the same time to William Heyen, a poet and editor to whom he was submitting a piece about writing. Stafford called the San Francisco episode “one of the strangest readings of my life.”[WS to William Heyen, Dec. 9, 1973, General Correspondence, Box 22.3, Watzek]

Poet to Poet: Stafford Writes to Jimmy Carter

           In September 1992, Stafford wrote a fan letter to a former U.S. president and fellow poet, Jimmy Carter. Stafford had read a group of Carter’s poems that had recently been published in the North Dakota Review. Carter, who died Dec. 29, 2024, at 100, was reportedly studying poetry in those days with two Arkansas writers, Jim Whitehead and Miller Williams. Stafford appreciated “that glimpse of part of your life” that he found in Carter’s poems. And as a fellow writer, Stafford enclosed a poem from his book An Oregon Message (1987). Although we’re not yet sure which poem he sent to Carter, Stafford felt like it was “harmonious with” one of the former president’s poems he particularly liked.

            Within a month or so, according to a notation made on the letter that appears in his correspondence files, Carter responded with a brief hand-written acknowledgment on a copy of the original letter, reproduced here.

Some months later, in January 1995, the New York Times would report that Carter spent two solid hours signing copies of his new book, Always a Reckoning (published, as it happens, by the newspaper’s imprint, Times Books), at a Rizzoli’s bookstore.

            By this point in Stafford’s career, just a year before his death, converging with heads of state and top political figures who happened to be poets might have been old hat for him. In the early 1970s, as you’ll discover in my forthcoming biography of Stafford, he began a friendship in poetry with Sen. Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota. McCarthy was the erstwhile presidential candidate—I worked for his campaign as an early teenager in 1968! McCarthy was not shy about sharing his poems with Stafford during the year (1970-71) the Oregon poet served in Washington, D.C., as poetry consultant to the Library of Congress. — SBP

William Stafford, Aphorist: A Line-by-Line Rodeo

          Stafford came under the spell of the philosopher Frederich Nietzsche while reading in the library at the University of Kansas. From Nietzsche and others he developed a talent for boiling wisdom into bite-sized expressions that can stand the test of time. His essays, poems, and other writings amount to a bottomless well of aphorisms.

Stafford scholars Vincent Wixon and Paul Merchant celebrated the practice in a valuable collection, Sound of the Ax: Aphorisms and Poems by William Stafford. Published in 2014 by the University of Pittsburgh Press, the book presents more than 400 items and prompted the poet Naomi Shihab Nye to conclude, “These brilliant lines are tuning forks, weather reports from a resonant interior world, to help us with the mysterious days confounding us. Dip in anywhere, repeatedly.”

           In my scouring of the Stafford record, I frequently highlight lines that resonate in this way. It occurred to me that, since my biography of Stafford remains a thing in progress, I shouldn’t have to wait to share more of his compressed thoughts.

It’s likely that some of my finds also appear in Sound of the Ax, but most of them are new, I think, and I expect the collection posted here will grow as I revisit various Stafford books and continue to page through the poet’s archives of writings and correspondence. Stafford turned his attention to the whole world, but the process of writing becomes a naturally recurring topic. Some lines collected here are less aphoristic but leapt forward as glimmering poetic gestures worthy of heightened attention.

Items are generally identified by their sources; often the poems are listed by their first book appearance, though many of Stafford’s most memorable poems are also collected in the posthumous The Way It Is. Unless otherwise noted, most drafts and unpublished material come from the William Stafford Archives in the Watzek Library at Lewis and Clark College, Portland, Oregon.  

—Steve Paul

“Writing is a reckless encounter with whatever comes along.”

—   “Making a Poem/Starting a Car on Ice,” Writing the Australian Crawl



“My debt to the world begins again,/ that I am part of this permanent dream.”

—    “Glimpses,” A Glass Face in the Rain

 

“We are surrounded, not by emblems, by paragons or villains, or fragments from Heaven and Hell, but by ready and adjustable potentials: nothing is special, everything is maybe.”

—   “The Importance of the Trivial,” prose draft, c. September 1964

 

“Anyone in the breathing business is in the rhythm business.”

—   “Writers Who Talk, Talkers Who Write,” essay draft, 1968

 

“Could there be a light so far that when/ you stop you make a shadow forever?”

—   “Passing a Pile of Stones,” A Glass Face in the Rain; this, of course, is a likely candidate to become an epigraph in my book, whose working title is The Shadow Poet.  

 

“Wherever you are, there is another door.”

—   “Smoke,” Smoke’s Way

 

“No matter how willing and weak your own/ face is, you know another face/ for you somewhere in the world: your house.”

—   “Looking for You,” Smoke’s Way

 

“Set free, the mind discovers shortcuts and arabesques through and over and around all purposes.”

—   Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“Animals full of light/ walk through the forest/ toward someone aiming a gun/ loaded with darkness./ That’s the world: God/ holding still/ letting it happen again/ and again and again.”

—   “Meditation,” the whole poem, frequently reprinted

 

“Those mad rulers at times elsewhere,/ inhuman and yet mob-worshipped,/ leaders of monstrous doctrine, unspeakable/ beyond belief, yet strangely attractive to/ the uninstructed.”

—   “Help from History,” An Oregon Message]

 

“But some facts happen only to people who are ready/ for how the Yukon turns over when you say its name.”

—   “For People with Problems About How to Believe,” An Oregon Message

 

“And you live beside me, millions of stars away.”

—   “Where We Live,” Learning to Live in the World

 

“A poem is a serious joke, truth that has learned jujitsu.”

—   “What It Is Like,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“The only connection we make/ is like a twinge when sometimes they change/ the beat in music, and we sprawl with it/ and hear another world for a minute/ that is almost there.”

—   “Sending These Messages,” A Glass Face in the Rain

 

“You turn your head—/ that’s what the silence meant: you’re not alone./ The whole wide world pours down.”

 –“Assurance,” Smoke’s Way

 

“In my life, I will more than live.”

—   “Reminders,” Learning to Live in the World

 

“(I)ntention endangers creation.”

—   Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“If you let your thought play, turn things this way and that, be ready for liveliness, alternatives, new views, the possibility of another world—you are in the area of poetry.”

—   “What It Is Like,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“Poems don’t just happen. They are luckily or stealthily related to a readiness within ourselves.”

—   Introduction, Since Feeling Is First

 

“I feel ready to follow even the most trivial hunch, and my notes to myself are full of beginnings, wavery hints, all kinds of inconclusive sequences sustained by nothing more than my indulgent realization that if it occurred to me it might somehow by justified.

—   “A Statement on Life and Writing,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“Now and then a sequence appeals to me for long enough to be teased into something like a poem, and when I feel sufficient conviction, I detach it from the accumulated leaves—my compost heap—and halfheartedly send it around to editors.”

—    “A Statement on Life and Writing,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“What one has written is not to be defended or valued, but abandoned: others must decide significance and value.”

— “Writing and Literature: Some Opinions,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“A poem today is anything said in such a way or put on the page in such a way as to invite from the hearer or reader a certain kind of attention.”

—    “The End of a Golden String,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“Only the golden string knows where it is going, and the role for a writer or reader is one of following, not imposing.”

—   “The End of a Golden String,” Writing the Australian Crawl

 

“A realization: my slogan for writing—lower your standards and go on—applies to living, to getting old.”

—   Sound of the Ax

 

“My typical act is—hit the road.”

—   Sound of the Ax

Research Discovery: Stafford in 'Aperture' Magazine

As my manuscript progressed through the early 1960s I came across a reference to a Stafford contribution to Aperture, the photography magazine. In the James Pirie Stafford bibliography it’s item E285. As I build my chronological spine for the project I consult and usually make a copy of Pirie’s year-by-year listings of Stafford’s appearances in journals, periodicals and the like. This item intrigued me because of Stafford’s own attraction to photography (as well as my own) and for the somewhat unusual alignment (for him at the time) of poems with visual images.

It’s still unclear how the connection was made, but Stafford’s stature had risen when he won the National Book Award in 1963 and by early 1964 he was corresponding with Minor White, the magazine editor, and others at Aperture. I’m inclined to think White invited Stafford to respond to a series of photographs, and Stafford eagerly complied. No matter how useful it could be, I decided I needed to have a copy of the magazine and had little trouble turning up the issue online.

White introduced the issue with a note about “transactional photography,” which seems to suggest that the photographer and ultimate viewer are present together in the moment. It seems as though the phrase these days implies more of a commercial arrangement between photographer and customer. I’ll let my friends in the photography world mull over the finer philosophical points here. I do seem to recall that pairing photos with poetry was not uncommon in the 1960s. In researching my Evan S. Connell biography, I found at least two photography books from the early 1960s and ‘70s to which he contributed or compiled selected poetry and prose. It must’ve been a thing. As the whole poetry-in-the-schools movement took root in the U.S. in the mid-1960s I think we were inundated with volumes of poetry, made to go down easier alongside photos and art works. In my personal “archives” I still have a little sprial-bound “book” of my own photos of Boston alongside samples of my insipid poetry. But enough about that.

In a letter to Stafford dated Feb. 19, 1964, Minor White responded to Stafford’s submissions: “Straw, feathers, dust, will work very well for the inside front cover,” he wrote. (See images below.) And he emphasized that each text, as with each photograph, would speak for itself and “should just be there.”

White chose to end the volume with a single line from Stafford: “The centers of stones need your prayers.” White’s comment: “WOW!…Hardly need the rest of the poem.” Curiously, while listing the six preceding untitled poems and fragments in his bibliography, Pirie missed this last one.

For his part, Stafford seemed fully absorbed by the idea of this project. As he wrote to an Aperture staffer earlier that month, “it would be great to achieve an inevitable and beautiful coherence which would loom for the viewer without being driven at him.”

Not sure at the moment whether any of this will find its way into my Stafford biography. The chapters from this period are already crammed full (of all good stuff, I might add).

Little Did I Know 30 Years Ago...

I began researching a potential full-life biography of William Stafford in early 2021 as I was awaiting production and publication of my book about Evan S. Connell. I knew there was no biography of Stafford, though his son, Kim, had written a memoir focused much on his father, Early Mornings, published in 2002. Others had written critical works and poetic studies over the years. But no biography, per se. As is my usual practice, I plunged in recklessly, “recklessly” I would eventually learn being a favorite Stafford expression of jolly communication, gossip, and creative expression. I had met Stafford a couple of times in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. And, in researching in his papers at Lewis & Clark College in Portland, Oregon, I even found a photograph of me and Stafford together at a book event in 1992. It took a while of poking around before I reminded myself that I wrote about the poet after his death in August 1993. Reading that article recently turned out to be a revelation. I was finding some of the same phraseology and ideas about Stafford that I was using again today. Could it be that I actually began this project 30 years ago? Weird to think so. But as I think about what this new blog will end up doing, even as I continue to peck away at this potential book, it seemed a reasonable place to start. Of the published article, Sept. 5, 1993, in The Kansas City Star, I’d say that there are a couple of sentences I would probably correct now that I know much more than I knew back then. But, as know, journalism is the first draft of history. Many revisions await.